Livestreams are my lifeline to the outside world, and I’ll watch anything that interests me.
Chris Gore of Film Threat has started a new weekly show called Versus, where he invites a unique group of streamers to discuss what’s going on in pop culture. Generally, he looks for people who share a similar background, knowing that as individuals everyone will have their own perspective. So even though the show has a combative title, it’s not about conflict within the show as often as it is normal people versus the current Hollywood narrative.
What happened last night was really special.
For this week’s episode Chris wanted to discuss movies like Immaculate and The First Omen, two recent religious horror movies, with a group of Christians. While a self-proclaimed “cultural Christian” himself, meaning that he participates in Christian holidays and prefers the western religious ethos without being spiritual in any way, Chris will talk to anyone. His co-host for other shows is Alan Ng, who is of Baptist persuasion, and the other panelists were everything from agnostic, to mainline evangelical, to Catholic.
A good mix, with a common set of core values.
Now I haven’t seen either of the movies, so I can’t comment on their film commentary. But what I loved was listening in on their conversation (so much so that I listened to it twice). Things got off to a great start when in her introduction guest La Reina Creole quoted my favorite Bible verse: “For God has not given us a spirit of fear, but of power and of love and of a sound mind” (2 Timothy 1:7). And if you’re going to watch horror movies, that’s the only way to go in.
All of the guests were equally comfortable discussing their faith and did it just as organically.
However, none of the guests were just token Christians. These are people who understand the language of film and storytelling just as well, and the entire discussion had a nice balance. Yet because their faith is so clearly a part of who they are, the conversation kept veering back in that direction. What makes religious horror different from other types? Why is it okay to demonize Christianity and not other faith systems? Should Christians even watch movies with demonic themes?
The Catholic guest, Odin, says no.
As is often the case, the discussion moved in many directions. They got into End Times topics, why Hollywood is so antagonistic to the Light, and a lot of scripture was cited. A particularly interesting tangent got into alien movies and characters who go on journeys of faith that lend themselves to more questions than answers. The Christian worldview never wavered.
Stay away from Ouija boards, kids.
I found the discussion of Catholic mythology particularly interesting. Most horror movies with demonic themes tend to use a type of Catholicism. And older movies tend to put the Church and the power of Christ in a positive light, while still managing to be more disturbing than the current batch. I wish they’d delved into this a little more. They note that you’d never see a Muslim horror movie that does to Islam what these movies do to the Catholics, but don’t mention that when they make the Church questionable Hollywood is crafting a mythology that isn’t representative of the authentic Christianity.
Hollywood goes off-script.
Not that I’m endorsing this by any means, but in order to make a truly offensive Muslim horror film, for example, the screenwriters would have to indulge in the same blending of fact and fiction. We probably see hints of that in the old Universal Monster movies like The Mummy, but it quickly and quietly faded out. Perhaps for the best. The Jewish horror movie The Vigil is very good, but it doesn’t take any liberties with Judaism and is better for it. And it’s why I think (and think the Versus panel would agree) the horror movies of the 70’s are superior when it comes to Christianity and scares.
Nefarious gets several shoutouts.
Overall, I was pleasantly surprised to hear a good-faith (no pun intended) conversation about Christian belief in the context of pop culture on a pop culture show. These are the discussions we need to have, in public forums like YouTube and Rumble, where people of all inclinations can overhear them. I’m not in any hurry to see more scary movies for my own entertainment, but if someone asked me to so that I could join the panel, I wouldn’t hesitate.
This is the way.