I like Andrew Klavan as a culture and political commentator and novelist. Lately I’ve been listening to the second novel in The Gray Man series by Mark Greaney and I’m burning right through it. So when I heard that Klavan interviewed Greaney on his weekly podcast I was quite pleased. It’s always good to hear professionals talk shop.
If you’ve only seen The Gray Man movie on Netflix and you’re rolling your eyes, let me just say that the book doesn’t fly on quite the same sugar rush. So far the series is pretty gritty (but no less action packed), though Greaney says that more humor starts to come through as the series progresses.
Greaney shares a little of his personal journey, from a guy working in a cubical 40 hours a week and writing in Starbucks on weekends, to a full time novelist cranking out two books every nine months. He grew up reading Tom Clancy novels (something he enjoyed with his dad) and eventually got the chance to write for the Clancy brand.
Who says dreams never come true?
My favorite part of the interview is when Klavan asked if Greaney outlines or if he’s a “natural structuralist.” That’s such a great way of putting it. I like to think that I’m something of a natural, having internalized the flow of story that I can just go. But like Greaney, I wish I could do detailed outlines to speed things along.
Maybe someday.
Greaney writes books that are over 100,000 words, and I’m not there yet. Right now he does a five page summary of the next book, which he sends to his editor, and then never looks at it again. Even five pages sounds daunting to me, but I don’t aspire to write thick books either. Like anything else, I suppose it’s best to start small and build up to bigger things.
Anyway if you’re into that sort of thing, I highly suggest you listen to the interview which I will link to here. And if that sparks some interest in the novel, here's an affiliate link.